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COHEN SCREWYOUOVERYOUR INVESTMENT
« on: Mar 27^th, 2010, 9:59am »

Ok everybody heres my CTTT judgment documents now all of you can now see the truth about CSI and what Member Ringrose had to say about Paul Perry and the rest of the scam artists up there. I hope you read this Mr Perry because this is the only web site that you cannot influence. COHEN STRACHAN INVESTMENT IS A SCAM COHEN STRACHAN INVESTMENT IS A SCAM COHEN STRACHAN INVESTMENT IS A SCAM COHEN STRACHAN INVESTMENT IS A SCAM COHEN STRACHAN INVESTMENT IS A SCAM COHEN STRACHAN INVESTMENT IS A SCAM COHEN STRACHAN INVESTMENT IS A SCAM COHEN STRACHAN INVESTMENT IS A SCAM COHEN STRACHAN INVESTMENT IS A SCAM COHEN STRACHAN INVESTMENT IS A SCAM COHEN STRACHAN INVESTMENT IS A SCAM COHEN STRACHAN INVESTMENT IS A SCAM COHEN STRACHAN INVESTMENT IS A SCAM COHEN STRACHAN INVESTMENT IS A SCAM COHEN STRACHAN INVESTMENT IS A SCAM COHEN STRACHAN INVESTMENT IS A SCAM Grin

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Re: COHEN SCREWYOUOVERYOUR INVESTMENT
« Reply #1 - on: Mar 27^th, 2010, 3:15pm »

While CSI is undoubtedly a scam given what is offered vs the price paid, and the judge (I assume the Aussie equivalent) noted deep concerns about the nature of the business practices of CSI, the victory in this court case was solely related to a $2000 gift certificate, and the attempt to recover the full cost of the software failed. It's hardly an overwhelming victory...

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Re: COHEN SCREWYOUOVERYOUR INVESTMENT
« Reply #2 - on: Mar 27^th, 2010, 4:54pm »

Very Interesting. Thanks Richard.

"Your funds will be remitted as soon as it is possible. As your funds are
gifted funds they do not take precedence over personally invested
funds. Due to the current glabal economic crisis there has been a
severe run on redemptions that affect the ability of trading. We will
attend to your request as soon as possible. Threats may not be helpful
in maintaining your posifion on the list of gifted redemptions"

This bit and the email which follow it rings way too true for just about every HYIP that I have ever seen. They always start strong, then they start to slow pay - always with a number of "convenient reasons".

With RFP it was initially because their bank account had been frozen. After patiently waiting forever, the US changed their laws RE bookmaker funding and Neteller was being investigated - Now RFP started claiming that they couldn't make payments because of the investigation and Neteller... Eventually the excuses stopped, and all interactions stopped too. The money was never paid out.

The world economic crisis is a weak excuse.

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Richard7632 Senior Member Posts: 266 Reputation: 4 Gender:	Re: COHEN SCREWYOUOVERYOUR INVESTMENT « Reply #3 - on: Mar 28^th, 2010, 11:43pm » aegist are you in australia or england
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Richard7632
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Re: COHEN SCREWYOUOVERYOUR INVESTMENT
« Reply #5 - on: Mar 29^th, 2010, 4:01am »

Here you go everyone this is what ill be submitting at the 22nd of Aprils hearing date and you all wouldnt believe what that dikhead paul perry has done. he has now turned around and denied ever receiving my letter containing evidence but little does he know that i sent it via Express Platinum so it can be traced so again CSI have been caught out on another lie. Well if anyone else has anything to add to these documents that will help me at my hearing date then by all means post it on here or email me on Richard7632@hotmail.com

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jazzmonkey Global Moderator Posts: 1124 Reputation: 11 Gender:	Re: COHEN SCREWYOUOVERYOUR INVESTMENT « Reply #6 - on: Mar 29^th, 2010, 4:20am » Richard - Keep us up to date with what happens with this (no doubt you will anyway)
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« Reply #7 - on: Mar 29^th, 2010, 1:38pm »

It's a bit late for Richard but here's a tip for anyone else thinking of taking legal action against these scum or similar.

   Please, please try and avoid long ranting letters full of personal abuse, CAPITAL LETTERS and without paragraphs (or even worse: handwriting, underlinings and green ink). The judiciary sitting in minor courts in most countries see plenty of unfounded cases brought by vindictive nutters and litigious timewasters with a chip on their shoulder and a bee in their bonnet. They are skilled in getting rid of them quickly. Anything that may make you look like one of these people is likely to prejudice a judge against you and may prevent your case from getting the full hearing it deserves. Be sure it will be used by the defence (rightly or wrongly) as evidence of your unreasonable behaviour and inability to compromise.

   If you want to succeed then it's fine to be angry or even write angry letters, but they are far more useful if they contain more sensible requests/demands (e.g. a demand for a refund with supporting reasons) and less abuse.

   All the same, good luck, Richard. You won the first minor skirmish but this is obviously the important battle.

  Jontheman (LLM amongst other things).

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Re: COHEN SCREWYOUOVERYOUR INVESTMENT
« Reply #8 - on: Mar 29^th, 2010, 5:17pm »

I like most hear that have there chill pills every morning are still waiting for the meat in the sandwich!

What is it that doesnt work,i mean i saw the data streaming and checked a few prices,all good

The range of books,asians,aussies,exchanges where good

The guy i spoke to new his stuff,a suprise

So what bar opinion its expensive what is the technical reasoning its no good?

Richard67686(and i got the actual story on richard -no money and a client in a million! bascily whitout really saying what they said,and i think by the rants its seems true) and in 3 or 4 years no one has actually said?

Bugger me and i blind what is faulty whats the catch i couldnt see?

Im positive as would most here think there would be someone in this time with factual info on the catch as i could not see any on the product side,is it the training or lack of? Is there an ongoing cost that we dont know about?

As with all the scams/ripoffs there is always in the begining the ''believers'' this lasts about 3 months then the waves of postings from victims time and time again the same pattern,why is there one guy with no real diffined reason why the service is no good,with as they say over 4000 customers wheres the rest?

This is a question that must be asked? To be fair? Where are they all 4000 they all must have the same stuff/data and program shorely.

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jazzmonkey Global Moderator Posts: 1124 Reputation: 11 Gender:	Re: COHEN SCREWYOUOVERYOUR INVESTMENT « Reply #9 - on: Mar 29^th, 2010, 6:35pm » seems strange that a company would provide you with private details regarding a client of theirs and an ongoing legal matter.
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topodds
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« Reply #10 - on: Mar 29^th, 2010, 8:47pm »

mate they basicly laughed it off as they said its been thrown out court 3 times as per my original post.

As did the posts you guys deleted from him,so he confirms it too,so one must say it is true!.

Id say that by the way he didnt blink in saying hes basicly a loonie(again i think you just have to read the deleted and non deleted ranks to agree)and had no money to trade,lent the money to start from a relitive or something,then wanted it back,again by his own posts he admits just that.

Now all of this he has now confirmed so all i can say is i was told the truth!

But dont shoot the messanger,so far all a was told has become know fact,all i saw was what anyone can,but the only thing that remains is where are the hundreds of posts from unhappy buyers like every single other true scam?

People must be going ok and happy or else we would be the first to know,would you not agree?

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Re: COHEN SCREWYOUOVERYOUR INVESTMENT
« Reply #11 - on: Mar 29^th, 2010, 10:48pm »

well...all you need to do is type csi or carbon a into the search button here to find a number of not so happy people, so Richard isnt the only one.

My point was, why did CSI provide you with Richard's details? If I were to speak to a company and ask for information regarding another client, the request would be refused straight away, more so if there was an ongoing legal problem. Just doesnt seem to add up.

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« Reply #12 - on: Mar 30^th, 2010, 2:22am »

Quote from topodds on Mar 29^th, 2010, 8:47pm:

mate they basicly laughed it off as they said its been thrown out court 3 times as per my original post.

   You have a funny definition of thrown out of court. Three hearings regarding a case (and I have no idea whether there actually were three) does NOT mean that a case was thrown out three times. Still, we can't expect the subliterate to understand legal process. From the court document posted above:

"There are a number of features of this transaction that cause me considerable concern [but] I am obliged to consider the matter on the evidence available"

  "A am satisfied that the representations made by Mr Simon Phillips...amount to misleading or deceptive conduct or conduct that is likely to mislead or deceive within the meaning of s42 of the Fair Trading Act 1987"

  "The award of these monies will not effect [sic - Oh Dear, Oz, even your judiciary can't write proper English ] Mr Partington's entitlement to recover other damages up to the full cost of the agreement if at any time he is able to demonstrate an entitlement"

   To anyone who is used to legal documents the judge is saying that this respondent has presented his case rather poorly, and as a result he cannot find for the full amount, but that a better presented case has a strong chance of success of winning the full amount - the judge is itching to find against what he believes is criminal activity. Please anyone who reads this who is in a similar position - use this as encouragement to seek legal advice and construct a stronger case (less insane ranting) for a full return of funds. A group action would be particularly effective.


   Go tell that to your paymasters TodOdds.

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Richard7632
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Re: COHEN SCREWYOUOVERYOUR INVESTMENT
« Reply #13 - on: Mar 30^th, 2010, 4:56am »

all i can say john is HERE HERE and very well said and yes it wasnt prepared very well due to the fact that i am doing it all myself and learning it all from scratch but i should be succesful on the 22nd due to the fact that CSI have not given a response so from there side of the arguement there is no evidence submitted but im pretty confident on a win. Will keep everyone up to date as i hear more

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« Reply #14 - on: Mar 30^th, 2010, 5:28am »

The only advice I can give if you don't have legal support (I'm not reading Australian statute - life's too short) is - be clear what offence it is that you're trying to prove, and what is required to prove that offence (the last judgement pointed to the relevant legislation). Present clear and simple evidence that demonstrates that this has happenned. You failed to do this on the last occasion - I'd imagine (but am not sure) that you would have to show that the software provided was not fit for purpose even with any amount of training and with a complete set of bookmaker accounts - make sure you can demonstrate this. Don't assume you'll win - they don't have to present anything and could still win - the onus is on you to demonstrate your case.

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