Sports Arbitrage Discussion Forum - Oz Future,Spectre trading, Gold Coast **SCAMS**

mike_cool
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Oz Future,Spectre trading, Gold Coast **SCAMS**
« on: Jul 25^th, 2007, 6:25am »

Hi all,

Over the past few days I have been researching and digging to try and get to the bottom of all these arbitrage scams that are popping up, ones like Aussoft/Global, Ozfuture, Reevera and of course this new one called Spectre. My brother nearly bought into Ozfuture and with the help of Aegist he didn't. It's a scary thought to nearly lose 7-8 grand so I got the help of my Uncle who worked for the federal police and is now a P.I. and here is a quick low down so far: (I will try to only add what has not been said so far in the forum), it only took him minutes to get this info too...

Aussoft/global: they sell Arb software at extremly overinflated prices...I think we all know of this scam by now

OzFuture: they sell a service by which you pay similer to Ausoft (7-8k) but receive no Software, only promises of future wealth...(what a jib)
these companys have similer personel (Sean Allman) and are based out of the same area, the Gold Coast in Australia. Oz Future say on their website that they are based in Bundall (Gold Coast), but when you dig a little it says that their principle place of business is unit 3, 140 on Surf Parade in Broadbeach, Gold Coast this street is not listed as a comercial area but as a residential, So are these guys operating out of their house???
Also it is not only this Mr. SEAN ANTONY ALLMAN involved with this shonky corporation, their is two other Directors listed also on the info my uncle received they are MATTHEW PAUL CROUCH and ROBERT JOHN DOUEIHI, two of them were born in 83' and one of them Mr Crouch was born in 80'. So they are quite young.

Mr Allman owns all the shares to this corporation, so i'm not too sure why their would be another two directors involved?? If anyone here can clear this up I would like to hear it.

Reevera: they also like Aussoft seem to sell software overinflated, these guys have already been exposed so their is no need to waste my time typing about these con artists!!!

Spectre Trading: these guys seem very similer to Oz Future by way of which they sell their service,but as Hooche said in the forum they use alot of Aussof's material, they are an absolute con because they say you put your money in with IASBet.com under their name and then they will Arbitrage for you, how is this even possible when you need two Bookies in order to Arbitrage. They are betting poor unfortunate clients money and then if they lose, well basicly tough luck to the client. Also you have to pay these scamers $7k for the right for them to make these bets on your behalf, Please dont put your hard eaned money with these dodgy bas**r*s.

This company have tried to cover the fact that they are another Gold Coast Scam by saying that they are based out of Fyshwyck, ACT, yet once again when you dig, it seems this company are 100% Gold Coast, their office's are at Unit 7 20 Expo Court, Southport, Gold Coast and I also have the directors address if anyone needs it his name is Brian Williams and lives in Mermaid Beach on the Gold Coast.

A friend of mine spoke to me yesterday and told me that he used to work for a scam company on the Gold Coast selling some HorseRacing scam for a guy called Larry Pickering, Anyway he has informed me that the Gold Coast is a haven for these type of scams and their is around 30-40 different company's operating in Arbitrage and these Horseracing things alone!!!

I would love to expose all these guys, anyway one thing he did mention is most company's that set up do so because they worked for one of the bigger corporations and want to make the big $$$ too...

So expect alot more of these company's to emerge as the young scumbag directors try to break free and make their millions

Sorry for such a big post, but it is info I think some people need before they lose their hard earned money

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jazzmonkey Global Moderator Posts: 1124 Reputation: 11 Gender:	Re: Oz Future,Spectre trading, Gold Coast *Scams « Reply #1 - on: Jul 25^th, 2007, 7:37am » Nice work - try to post this info on other forums too if you get the chance - tis a hard enough business as it is without tossers trying to steal our cash
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andigold YaBB Newbies Posts: 5 Reputation: 0	Re: Oz Future,Spectre trading, Gold Coast *Scams « Reply #2 - on: Jul 25^th, 2007, 6:16pm » Hi guys I just posted about Ozfuture in the "Arb-a-trader (AusSoft and Globalsoft) *SCAM*" thread.
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hooche YaBB Newbies Posts: 9 Reputation: 0 Gender:	Re: Oz Future,Spectre trading, Gold Coast *Scams « Reply #3 - on: Jul 25^th, 2007, 8:52pm » I'm laughing all the way back to the bank with my $7,500....thanks to the goodies left in this world some of us are being saved!! Being in my present situation losing this money would have been JUST TO MUCH!!
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TFO YaBB Newbies Posts: 28 Reputation: 0	Re: Oz Future,Spectre trading, Gold Coast *Scams « Reply #4 - on: Jul 25^th, 2007, 9:25pm » Oh oh, here comes another one... www.rhodespi.com.au
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hooche YaBB Newbies Posts: 9 Reputation: 0 Gender:	Re: Oz Future,Spectre trading, Gold Coast *Scams « Reply #5 - on: Jul 25^th, 2007, 9:48pm » Today I received yet another GREAT OPPOTUNITY...This one is called RHODES PENINSULA....anyone heard of this QLD company...I'm cool being another day older...popped it straight into recycling
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mike_cool
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Re: Oz Future,Spectre trading, Gold Coast **Scams*
« Reply #6 - on: Jul 26^th, 2007, 5:46am »

Good stuff guys, My uncle has looked into these dodgy bas*ar*s and they are 110% scamers, they say their offices are in Short St in Southport, Gold Coast, yet their principle place of business is 30 NATURE VALLEY COURT GILSTON QLD 4211...

Ok nothing too bad their, but when you look a little harder you can see that they were once called Rhodes Peninnsular Apartments and only changed their name on the 7/6/2007( haha its a big jump to go from managing apartments to operating a Sports Arbitrage Service, ) They also appointed a new Director on the 29/5/2007 (if memory serves me correctly, this was quite similer to the dates that Mr Matthew Crouch and Mr Robert Doueihi became Directors to Oz Future, the were appointed on the 31/5/2007, its only two days in the difference. Maybe a coincedece, but I highly doubt it...

I think what my mate said to me the other days seems quite true, all these scumbags are going to start popping up all over the place (mainly on the Gold Coast, but will target anyone anywhere) so anyone reading this please stay well away at your peril!!!

Ok and if that is not enough to make you hang on to your hard earned money, this might help:

Their figures in their brocuhre are compleatly false, they show similer ones to Oz Future, how they trade 3 and 4 times a day and somehow the magicly get all their money back from the bookmaker in record time to allow themselves to acomplish this feet..c haha, when will these fools ever learn.

Not only that but they also claim to use TopSport the same as that ETA company did,Guys it is IMPOSSIBLE to Arb trade using one bookie, and if they are saying that they put the other side on for you then they must be really nice people to cough up their own dough.. Because from what I can gather from what my Brother has said and what I have read in this forum, is that you only give $1,000 to TopSport , so if that $1,000 stays in the TopSport Account, how on earth are they making the other side of the trade... Well the answer is quite simple they are not

now I know someone in here has used ETA before was it Forlone Hope? anyway you claimed that it did work till it stopped working and eventually went to sh*t...

Well I think it was because of this reason:

A while back a guy was on current affair about a managed fund in the currency trading sector, this was a complete scam as what he did was take clients money and trade it for them on the markets and make a return, from that more people would sign up and he made more profit for his clients until one day he disappered...

Heres what happened, people paid around 8k for this service, he used that money to give back to them bit by bit so it looked like he was making them a profit (out of that 8k maybe 1-2k was giving back over the following months) then he got more clients from his happy customers and it went on until the day that his pool got too big and could not continue to keep giving to everyone, so he upped stakes and dissapered..

Everyone lost everything bar maybe the first few involved who got back maybe 2k of their 8k..

I feel this is what will happen if you put your money into either Rhodes, or spectre or Oz Future or any of the other scamers we expose from the Gold Coast...

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mike_cool
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Re: Oz Future,Spectre trading, Gold Coast **Scams*
« Reply #7 - on: Jul 26^th, 2007, 5:56am »

By the way (from my first post) does anyone know why a company would have 3 Directors and only one shareholder? Because that would mean that only Mr.Allman would be entitled to any or all the money made by the Oz Future Scam, why on earth would their be another 2 Directors???? It means that they all share responsibility for this Scam but only one will prosper

Anyone got any views on this hmmm...???

Mike

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mike_cool Junior Member Posts: 92 Reputation: 4	Re: Oz Future,Spectre trading, Gold Coast *Scams « Reply #8 - on: Jul 26^th, 2007, 6:17am » By the way the Director of Rhodes is someone by the name of Robert Keogh, he was born in 1970, on the Gold Coast in Southport
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hooche
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Re: Oz Future,Spectre trading, Gold Coast **Scams*
« Reply #9 - on: Jul 27^th, 2007, 4:44pm »

With Vulnerability alive and kicking how on earth are people going to be protected from these people.
Surely it's time for the Law and or Government to stand up and be counted,unforntuately these bodies seem to take an age to move there butts.Good people have accomplished sound & damning information .Maybe these findings could be forwarded to A Current Affair? Having had three of these companies....SPRECTE...RHODES....AUSSOFT sent me there rubbish all in a two week period and almost signing up, I feel the people out there without computers to do a bit homework are the most vulnerable of all.

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TFO YaBB Newbies Posts: 28 Reputation: 0	Re: Oz Future,Spectre trading, Gold Coast *Scams « Reply #10 - on: Jul 27^th, 2007, 5:36pm » Surely letting loose A Current Affair or Today Tonight on these people would be something akin to setting a rabid baboon loose in a pre-school playground? How could we live with ourselves after committing such a lowly act? ...quite easily I'm thinking.
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hooche YaBB Newbies Posts: 9 Reputation: 0 Gender:	Re: Oz Future,Spectre trading, Gold Coast *Scams « Reply #11 - on: Jul 27^th, 2007, 5:42pm » Great if enough messages get sent...they just may take it up!
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ww88 Seymours Lovechild Member arb on! Posts: 2140 Reputation: 10	Re: Oz Future,Spectre trading, Gold Coast *Scams « Reply #12 - on: Jul 28^th, 2007, 3:10am » I can see why you might want to do a tv prog about how these companies are scamming people but you might also draw unwanted attention to arbing by doing so. Where do these people get your numbers from I wonder. And why have they never called me! ww
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Re: Oz Future,Spectre trading, Gold Coast **Scams*
« Reply #13 - on: Jul 28^th, 2007, 7:07am »

Quote from wannabee_winner on Jul 28^th, 2007, 3:10am:

I can see why you might want to do a tv prog about how these companies are scamming people but you might also draw unwanted attention to arbing by doing so.

Where do these people get your numbers from I wonder. And why have they never called me!

ww

Unwanted attention like bad press, or unwanted attention like droves of people finding out about it and getting started?

I can't see how the first can harm you, and with the second, well yeah that might happen, but it won't last more than a few hours Wink

The attention span of the average today tonight/a current affairs viewer i expect.

Nonetheless, I would like to see it happen. I'd be curious to see what would happen if one of the programs decided to run the story

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ww88 Seymours Lovechild Member arb on! Posts: 2140 Reputation: 10	Re: Oz Future,Spectre trading, Gold Coast *Scams « Reply #14 - on: Jul 28^th, 2007, 8:07am » I think, Aegist, that it could be good for your business but bad for mine and everyone elses on this forum. ww
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