ST: it'll never hit now that you mentioned it here. good luck anyway (I could do without the competition Wink )
paulmcfc: Yep I have taken a shine to one particular sheikh
KreatorOfArbs: Nikos mate shiiiiiiit you come a long way! in 6 months you'll never arb again. The patterns aren't as hard as you think....niccup
Jontheman: well det/chi busted by half time.  Next time I'll keep quiet  embarrassed
vanman: just a regular 2 week holiday for then Jon
vanman: or even...... for you then Jon
qwarb: Anyone know when postponed Queens Park x Montrose match takes place - open bets @ pinn
Igby: looks like no new date yet!   http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/scot_div_1/8285647.stm
vanman: I would imagine it will take place as and when the 2 clubs can agree a date,it could be next week or next month.
sjwreford: Very incisive Grin
jasont50: how can you open 2 accounst with one bookmaker
Fav: lol
Jontheman: Qwarb.  I remember reading once about required notice by the police for football matches.  Can't remember what it was but it's definitely longer than 72 hours.  Therefore postponed UK matches can't be played next day or two after.
aldo: The postponed league game with Montrose will now be played next Tuesday, October 13. Supporters' bus times are Clarkston 4.05pm; Battlefield 4.15pm; Cochrane St 4.30pm.
mr._mischief: you can't open 2 accounts with one bookmaker - you'll need at least 20 with each UK bookie to be a true arber!   Wink Wink
Bastiano: bwin down?
DonS: bastiano: not here
Bastiano: works fine now, thanks
ElectroArb: great - just logged into bwin to find a nice basketball middle came in
ST: congrats on your €10 Wink
Fav: Smiley monaco!!!!!!!!!
ST: For anyone arbing on Denmark-Sweden tomorrow, the drunken Dane won't be at the arena this time. They've also built a "drunk trap", which is a net where drunks will end up if they try to invade the pitch, http://gfx.aftonbladet-cdn.se/multimedia/dynamic/01042/09s89-fylle3-984_j_1042325l.jpg
DonS: HAHA.. LETS GO DENMARK Tongue
ww88: how many drunks are going to crawl into that for a nap!
nikos: what a day!
Fav: +1 got even 30% arb
Bastiano: average saturday for me
Bastiano: but i was drunk last night, started arbing at 15.00 lol
Fav: i've missed some nuts -)
Gollum: Runnin out of time on the Bet-At-Home promo, fill ya boots quick. Fairplay to em theyve took all my money, every account I opened the £150 was lost on the 1st bet, best offer for a while that one
paulmcfc: Is the deadline 12pm tomorrow for depositing for the bonus?
sjwreford: thank you gallum i nearly forget to use it for my other accounts,deadline is 11am Monday uk
paulmcfc: ok cheers pal
nikos: Bolivia-Brazil...the game of the day.
sinkhole: anyone here?
sinkhole: if u are there is a great 2% arb on betfair and matchbook tennese-colts +3.5
Gollum: Glad I could be of help to you sj, Im always look to help others, If theres one thing ive learnt in my short time on this planet, what goes around sure does come around  Wink
ww88: gollum has been kidnapped by aliens and replaced by some kind of 'nice' alien creature.
johnsmith: after being here a while, i am absolutely amazed at the amount of money the scam stuff sucks out of stupid people
vanman: maybe we`d all be better off setting up our own scams and make even more money.
Bastiano: in theory 1 -2 % of people (customers) will buy and belive everything you offer. Smiley
Gollum: fairplay betty, they knew. Guess well never know whether they would have voided or not, cant believe it was a genuine arb. Im just glad I didnt go for the middle
theman: ding
vanman: dong merrily on high.
DonS: I can now confirm that bwin does void bets after they have lost Tongue Lucky me Smiley
Gollum: I can now confirm Bet and Wank is run by gyppos
sjwreford: only idiots use them Gallum
DonS: sjwreford??? a bit judgemental? or just lag of self-esteem?
jazzmonkey: I use bwin - dont think i am an idiot
ww88: I don't use them but I am an idiot. This blows your whole theory out of the water
sjwreford: You have only to look above to see why,I need not bother myself with them I can get better and safer arbs elsewhere
jazzmonkey: arbs at bwin are generally very safe - in years of using them I have only had a couple of issues.  As far as getting better arbs, for those who are not limited bwin is a goldmine.
ST: how do you say ding in french? Smiley
Gollum: eerrr , I think its spelt monfils
Gollum: And dong is spelt simon, but its not often you get a ding dong
ST: If I retirement like the Monfils one had gone against me I would have been so pissed off, because it was clearly a "I'm losing and don't want to be humiliated" kind of retirement. But now that I ended up winning because of it, it's happy days. Gollum, if you're mixing rules on Simon/Berdych, that's a bit risky considering Berdych had treatment for both his knee and hip yesterday.
KreatorOfArbs: WTF is going on with this Sydney FC game?
sjwreford: I imagine even Gollum made some oney today
paulmcfc: I didnt think today was anything special
Gollum: Bits and pieces for me sj, nowt special, not got the accounts atm. Anyhow stop tryin to chat me up ya big sausage guzzler
sjwreford: Strange over 2k for me ya ladyboy lover.
Gollum: Yeah but youre probably the best arber in the world (almost certainly by the look of it)
ww88: How long does a game of american football take? Would one starting at 4 am be finished well before 7?
simo: they can take 3 hours. not sure of the exact game time but time outs add a lot on
sjwreford: Would not be finished well before 7
ww88: ok. ta
Jontheman: well I'm busy next week so not too much arbing but at least the world championship of fixed tennis (staged in Moscow I believe) started early  Wink
jazzmonkey: Potitoooooooooooooooooooooooo
Fav: lol starace reminds me istomin-kendrick match))) let's how it goes. pervak is nice fix won't cover it at all
Fav: i'm in danger only covered bf trade on pervak undecided
Gollum: Not covered any of my Donskoy bets, absolute nailed on free money cant believe hes not 1.01
Gollum: Pervak should come through but would never have had a wta as just a bet, Starace on the other hand is at it all the time, dunno how he gets away with it
Fav: gl gollum
Dom: Nailed on free money......sounds like betfair forum talk to me...shame on you
ST: unlucky moneytree
Gollum: Aye I thought you just had to follow the money
Gollum: moneytree, lol
Gollum: moneytree is old hat, the new kid on the block is Mr Winner
Fav: new age in tennis fixing. low limits allows to move line with smaller amount after that they make their deals in-play
sjwreford: gubbed
ST: not many in-play deals to make in the potito match
Fav: st, if potito's match was offline faster that pervak's so not to much money involved.
jazzmonkey: that match hurt me too -  very, very strange
jazzmonkey: this is how to properly fix a game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB-tXhIcTTY
sjwreford: Do you guys just gamble then?
Jenx: and todays fixed match is...... Vinci V Bondarenko ... wtf is going on?
jazzmonkey: no idea but i am not going to make the same mistake as yesterday
Gollum: ALL IN VINCI 1ST BOLLOCK, FREE MONIES 1.01, BRACE FOR THE BONDARENKO RETIREMENT, ITS IMMINENT
ww88: jeez jazz, that was really unsubtle. This one too for mixed rules tennis fans .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl-2uVhNLJI&feature=PlayList&p=17F0BE127E955ACC&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=51
vanman: The last goal was the best,the defender even had the cheek to appeal for offside. Grin
Gollum: Ive cracked the Da Vinci Code
paulmcfc: Enter Message
sjwreford: Gallum and the rest of the chancers recoup some of your gambling losses,get yourselves to Anfield and throw a ball on the pitch  http://www.betfred.com/Areas/betting/Template_2_UK/index.html#bo-navigation=11.1,9579.2&market-group=79904.2&action=market-group-list
ww88: 1/4 ??? wtf
ST: I remember them offering 1/5 on "Monica Seles to be stabbed during changeover" in her comeback
ww88: After all if it was 5/1 we would all bet to our limits and go and stab her. I'd make a fast $2.20 or so.
Bastiano: Is it only me or is nordica decreasing limits (CL - 20€) It was not much, but i could bet more with them on some nordic and major leagues.
whocares: i believe that they have
sinkhole: does sbobet have livechat?
N_O_Y_B: no
DonS: yes they do. Log out and look on the left side
ww88: quiet tonight or is it me?
sjwreford: Indeed only saved by JJ.
paulmcfc: How much u made today then sjwreford?
Jenx: JANKOVIC.... YEEEEEEES
Bastiano: quite day here too
vanman: wow what a day
sjwreford: Some turnaround
N_O_Y_B: can't complain. valencia, ajax and hertha-games moving like crazy, too bad they moved at the same time.. plus a juicy basket middle
Jontheman: Yep, got most of my action on the Ajax move; plenty on Valencia;  not even 1 bet on Hertha.  Really did need 2 of me to keep up!!
paulmcfc: I take it stopping at 6pm UK time yesterday was a bad idea idea then?
sjwreford: Yes not ideal
Bastiano: Nice friday evening, just earned for pubing all night Smiley
Dom: prefer shaved myself.
ww88: Smiley
Gollum: ere we go then, black coffee strong, lets feckin ave it !!!!!!!!!!!!
sjwreford: Some very nice middles last night Smiley
Gollum: last night, thought you were an aussie
sjwreford: Expat Aussie
Gollum: oh no, you aint residing here are ya, not another feckin immigrant. You on benefits with all the trimmings i suppose. Where you located Soho or you gone for the seaside option, Brighton
sjwreford: Residing in the Midlands so I can be nearer your missus.
Gollum: My missus aint got a cock, shed be no good to you
ww88: Sj is a big enough cock for the both of them
sjwreford: lol your missus is a ladyboy Gollum surely she has a cock
Gollum: I paid for her/him to have the op, so sorry youll have to find your sausage fix elsewhere
jazzmonkey: real intellectual battle this one
vanman: So where in the midlands are you sjwreford
sjwreford: Edgbaston
vanman: Nice place or it used to be last time i was over that way.
johnsmith: i was born in audley, stoke on trent
paulmcfc: Anyone else getting auto logged out of sbobet every 5-10 mins?
sjwreford: No
whocares: paul. sometimes
ww88: not me either
DonS: nice move on valencia game here before kickoff Smiley
Jontheman: nice move on every game in Italy  Smiley.  I need to train a monkey to man a 2nd set of computers!!
sjwreford: Ambidexterity is something you should learn
Jontheman: I already have a computer for each hand.  Feet is beyond me!
DonS: yeah also use two computers. Second monitor for my main station, is my next move. No monkey yet.
Jontheman: Pinny odds compilers gone on strike?
vanman: I emailed them this morning,they are having technical problems.
ST: the isittuesday site seems to be gone Sad
ww88: I emailed them this morning,they are having technical problems.
ST: Grin I can see why, very complex website.
sjwreford: MAGIC Smiley Smiley Smiley
jazzmonkey: hi tribet
Mets13: tribet you lying clown I'm still waiting for your letter of intention to sue in the mail!!! You're still a first class knob.
simo: pinny down ?
ww88: no probs here
ww88: Try disconnecting your internet for 30 secs.
paulmcfc: Sheikh Mansoor out!
ww88: Smiley
N_O_Y_B: missed a gigantic middle on the san antonio-game by one point. i'm not sure i'm not the only one overhere though.
jazzmonkey: I had 5,6 & 7 points for that - 6 would have been the best by a long way
jazzmonkey: but 7 was ok too
N_O_Y_B: 7 didn't do it for me unfortunately. already hit my fair share this year, but this one would have blown all of those away. anyway, better luck next time
Bastiano: quite wednesday till now, lets hope evening will bring something
sjwreford: It brought a Portland middle Smiley Smiley Smiley
Dom: hello again tribet
Gollum: Tribet was the king of middles (and he always used to let us know when one landed), maybe SJ is tribet. Fuckin Hell tribet what the fuck happened to you. That would explain a few things sj has written aswell, what a pair of fuckin girls
sjwreford: Also brought mass paranoia I see.
Gollum: get your tits out you fuckin slag
jazzmonkey: no one cares sj, really no one cares
Gollum: DEL POTRO WE LOVE YOU, WE REALLY DO  Smiley
Menduesi: Gollum, Tribet would think you a fool to bet mixed-rules tennis!  But WD anyway
Gollum: He who dares Rodney, to be honest going 1st ball on Stepanek and 2 sets on the Argentinian was on the verge of crazy, just had a feelin it was on. I seen it was 4-0 on livescore, thought it could get interestin so went to watch the match live on Sky, when I turned the channel, the 2 pundits were on in the Studio with one of them saying sommat along the lines of It could be an uncomfortable flight home for Del boy with that kind of injury. Biggest ever win on a retirement, xmas sorted
paulmcfc: Nice 1 gollers
N_O_Y_B: the greeks are at it again...
vanman: What price Pierikos at KO ?
sjwreford: Who cares +2k all round for me.
jazzmonkey: no-one here cares sj, go back to tribet's kennel
Igby: fantastic Screwford, congratulations.
Menduesi: "Biggest ever win on a retirement, xmas sorted"?  Either you're a very unambitious arber, or you have a gigantic family Wink
Gollum: I dont expect too much from arbing these days
ST: anyone else having problems with Pinny's dynamic lines?
vanman: Have been having problems all day ST,have sent them a few emails but nothing as yet as to when it will be sorted.
vanman: Enter Message
sjwreford: Dallassssssssssssss that's huge Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley
Gollum: I bet it werent as big as that cock you were munching saturday night
vanman: lol
sjwreford: Are you 10 yeras old gallum?
simo: which planet uses yeras
sjwreford: That joke has plainy gone over your little head simo.
simo: carry on munching
sjwreford: Nicks/Nets Smiley Smiley Smiley munch on that double middle simple simo Grin
simo: did you land that as well
simo: i must be a good arber like you swejrfuck
jazzmonkey: in the knicks game the dog won, and the totals in all books started at a lowest of 214 and moved up - the game finished on 213 so no middle hit
Dom: I've seen more humility and grace in the betfair football forum. You really are a pathetically childish human being sjwreford
sjwreford: Oh dear some checking on how to do middles is needed there jazzmonkey
sjwreford: Hrbattyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley
Bastiano: Dornbirn vs Red Bull Juniors Salzburg.............postponed!!
Dom: k
Dom: k
Dom: k
Dom: k
Dom: k
Dom: k
Dom: k
Dom: k
sjwreford: Missed out on £60 there
ww88: dynamic odds on pinny working?
simo: no not for me
Bastiano: Nothing from services, only some own arbs, is it me only?
vanman: Pinny dynamic odds not working here either,Bastino it depends on which service you use.
sinkhole: haha pinn deynamic lines has been crap for days now and I asked them and they said it was fine...
sinkhole: I thought there was something wrong whit my comp...
vanman: Now Pinny has gone offline completely.
sinkhole: ye, maybe they fix it now...
Bastiano: Yes, same with me
Jontheman: Hope nobody knocked off early.  I've just had a cracking last hour  Cheesy
Menduesi: What happened re. Hrbaty?  No retirement I can see.
Igby: Pinnacle down?
whocares: isn't at 1340 gmt
Jontheman: go on - 1 more swing in the last 15 minutes for an unbelievable day!!
aldo: betfair is down
Igby: BF fine for me
theman: yo
Fav: rostov - amkar yeah baby)))))
ww88: although I thank the ruskies for providing me a tastey arb, I do wonder how these games can be fixed so blatently when fixed football is so much in the news at the moment
Igby: The Russians just don't give a shit!
N_O_Y_B: damn i also had quite a few arbs, but all on the wrong result as it turns out. by the time i noticed the draw collapsed most the books i used had pulled it.
Jontheman: anybody else having probs with pinny?
sjwreford: no
vanman: Yes pinny went down here about 6 pm,still off now.
hotgeek: what the f is going on with pinny
hotgeek: i thinkthey hate me
hotgeek: do you think they are blocking peoples ips?
vanman: They`ve blocked my IP before,but i don`t think it`s that.They have been having problems for a while with their website
vanman: I have sent an email,not that it will do much good.
sjwreford: still fine for me Smiley
DonS: 20:10 CET: Problems with pinny anyone?
vanman: still down here,reply to email says they are having technical problems
Jontheman: lucky they didn't go down at 5.45pm; now that could've caused problems for me!
ST: problems with pinny shortly after 7 pm CET on my desktop. tried my laptop and it worked fine.
vanman: Would someone copy and paste pinnys URL and i can try if  that works.
sinkhole: sbobet down
paulmcfc: Sjwreford- You have got to be a man yoo fan? Am I right?
sjwreford: Yes who else how did you know?
paulmcfc: Knew it. United fans have a certain way about them plus they are like rats. You are never more than 3 metres away from one so its not too difficult to spot of them
sjwreford: That saying applies to snakes in my homeland.
ElectroArb: Ilha de Queimada Grande
Whitney Houston: Man I need some crack.
sjwreford: speak to natal he's on something
paulmcfc: WTF? This forum gets weirder by the day. Quality!
jazzmonkey: I hadnt heard of Ilha de Queimada Grande until you mentioned it ElectroArb - would love to go to the island but looks to be off limits
sjwreford: Spectacular day so far Cheesy
N_O_Y_B: roeselare playing this evening with only 5 regulars, rest youth. coach told press it's a fake match and he doesn't care anymore (club is bankrupt).. explains quite a bit
N_O_Y_B: sorry, i meant mouscron. roeselare is the oponent obv.
hotgeek: anyone else having problems with the greek?
Jontheman: Got some nice bets on Roeslare at 2.4.  If I'd known that at the time I would have put them to much better use  cry
sjwreford: http://mirror1.thegreek.com/sports/home.asp just keeps getting better today
Jontheman: thanks anyway NOYB; might have a cheeky punt on Roeslare with what I still have left open...
sjwreford: tut-tut
nikos: what a pleasant Saturday
sjwreford: +2k already very nice
N_O_Y_B: jon hope you didn't, roeselare down to 10 after 5 min.
sjwreford: PSML classic
sinkhole: anyone know how long betfair will be down?
ElectroArb: a nice start to the day, logging in to find overnight nba middle came in Smiley
paulmcfc: bobcats v denver?
ElectroArb: yep thats the one.  took a 1.3% negative for a 3 point spread.  pity i could only get a grand on
ElectroArb: actually 4 points
paulmcfc: good work. I missed it by 1 point
simo: pinny down?
vanman: yes pinny down here as well
DonS: nice beginning of the last EL night this year!
simo: Enter Message
simo: welcome back ruby
ruby: Ah, hello, thank you very much
Jontheman: For anyone who doesn't know - there's a lot of snow in the UK this weekend.  Watch out for plenty of postponed football.
ST: there's a handy thread on betfair's forum: "Latest Postponements"
Jontheman: Cheers ST
ww88: snow? I've been on the beach all day!
Jenx: watch the different rules too. some void some keep the bet live to see if matches a played within  a few days
whocares: sbobet down?
whocares: down for me on aol but not other isp
nikos: http://www.sbobet2.com/
Jontheman: no chance of replays within a few days over Xmas period though.
paulmcfc: Big mistake sacking hughes. Typical bloody city
ww88: personally I have to go with City on this one. If it wasn't for bellamy where would you be in the table? I don't think he has the players. He has enough money to buy anyone and it seems thats his problem, he has just brought anyone!
jazzmonkey: just bought all the best strikers he could - was the kind of thing i used to do in chamionship manager (if any of you know that), and i was always a nightmare keeping them all happy
jazzmonkey: *it
simo: sp down?
simo: he bought defenders as well lescott and toure he just hasn't got them to gel and time has ran out
simo: Enter Message
Bastiano: Not soo much work today till now, vacations time for arbers is comming Smiley
vanman: Vacation has started,had far too much wine and beer the last 2 days and it isn`t even xmas yet,god help my liver
paulmcfc: I actually he bought well on the whole. The only real let downs have been toure, adebayor and robinho and the latter wasnt his signing. De Jong, Tevez, Lescott, Bellamy, SWP, Kompany all great signings. The target was top 6 and maybe a cup which we are on target for. We are in a really good position. Yes he has payed over the odds for players but that was always going to happen. Very harsh on Hughes in my opinion. I think it would of worked out
Jontheman: Since nobody else has done it yet.....
Jontheman: 49ers v Philly hits 40!!   Smiley Smiley Smiley
DonS: bwin down?
DonS: @ 12:27 CET
ww88: anyone else get champagne from moneybookers! nice surprise!
DonS: bah not here :S I got a christmas card...
Jenx: christmas card here too... where are all the diaries this year?
vanman: Had a diary from billies this morning.
jazzmonkey: cant see that i will be getting many pressies, havent been in many of my registered addresses for years
N_O_Y_B: champagne for me too.. nice..
Jontheman: And I get a skanky card    Angry  At least my main contract at work gave me a magnum of very nice wine!! Cheesy
Jenx: still no diaries........ why dont the bookies like me?
Jontheman: Yeah, I had to spend actual money on my wife's Xmas present this year  Grin
vanman: Haven`t bought my mrs anything for years
theman: aha
theman: still alive ???
vanman: Be careful with any arbs on english football matches,there will be lots of matches called off due to weather
Jenx: It would be nice to find an arb... slow  or what.
vanman: Haven`t really done anything for the last 10 days,can`t be arsed
vanman: But yes it is slow
ElectroArb: looking forward to return of german football
Jontheman: Pinny's NCAAB totals technical probs are quite amusing.  3.18 on a totals line anyone??
jazzmonkey: they didnt void them jon
caligula: any of them?
Jontheman: no I saw that Jazz; I took a few when things first started then when I realised it seemed to be a tech problem I stopped bothering because I thought they'd just be voided and it was a waste of time
Jontheman: I left the ones on the opening matches to run to see if they'd be graded reasoning they were excellent value bets anyway (obviously they both lost  Roll Eyes) then when I saw that I laid off the rest hoping to hit some nice middles (none did  Angry)
Jontheman: If I'd know Pinny would let them all ride I could have doubled my annual profit in a day hammering them.  Makes you wonder what actually caused it - some 3rd party staking 'bot going mental at Pinny and dumping a load of cash there?  Even so you'd expect the totals to adjust rather than just keep shifting the odds.  Fair play to Pinny if they stood all those bets when it was their own software - they were clear palps so nobody could've complained if they were voided
Jenx: yes very odd. Usually if they void they do it quickly. Waited all day just in case. Covered them of now.
Jenx: ...and .... I reckon it was Bots.
jazzmonkey: agreed jenx
DonS: 19:00 CET: SBO down?
whocares: 19.30 cet no
theman: billythedog  hi dude
theman: Enter Message
Mets13: Hay Ruby. What are you doing with yourself these days? Still arbing?
ruby: Hello - yes just back after a five month break - all a bit slow though
vanman: Things have been slow for a while
nikos: everything ok here. Greek games are great, as always.
nikos: Last years, fixes were starting after March, now it is getting ''better''
vanman: Yes greek matches are great source of easy money,maybe it`s been slow on everything else due to time of year.
ww88: how was your trip ruby, gonna put some photos up?
Bastiano: Its sunday, but more like monday.
whocares: glad that i am not the only one!
Jontheman: what are you moaning about; I had my best weekend of the year Wink
whocares: of the decade also?
Bastiano: lol, my best weekend this year too
Jontheman: In all seriousness I had my best weekend of all time believe it or not.  Thank some dodgy lights at Tampa Ice Rink and some different rules on NHL postponements.
Jontheman: Sorry, Newark NJ ice rink, not tampa.
ruby: Great trip w88 thanks, will put a few pics up
Igby: Is it extra-quiet these days or what?
Jontheman: Really?  Is there not enough tennis on for you at the moment?  Shocked
Igby: To be honest with you Jon, not a lot of tennis for me yet
vanman: Tennis aside this year has been shit so far.
Igby: agree Van
Jontheman: I'm honestly surprised - I'm on my best month of all time, and not far off that pace even excluding lucky NHL postponments.
Jontheman: Maybe this just means I'm shit the rest of the times  lips sealed
jazzmonkey: the year has been good for me too, perhaps it is just the timezone though
simo: I agree about the timezone i have had loads of good tennis arbs
DonS: 1814 CET: Sportspunter down?
ST: Haven't done these in a while, but Baghdatis  Smiley Smiley
ST: Any brave/lucky Kirilenko backers with Expekt? They only took €30 from me.
simo: lots of big retirements at the oz open
Jontheman: Nadal you big poof  Angry  All my lovely profits voided.
Jontheman: I'd bet my house on Murray to get to the final, though.  His opponent has played 3 straight 5-set matches and he's cruised through.
jazzmonkey: apparently hills have paid out on murray
vanman: Murray will never have a better chance of winning a slam
paulmcfc: Who we all backing tonight then? City or Man yoo?
vanman: It`s joker the chucker now. lol
Igby: Anyone else unable to log into Pinnacle?
ww88: me too
Bastiano: yes, down here too
vanman: no problems here.
caligula: been down all day for me
hotgeek: it doesnt work in safari but  i can get pinny in safari
caligula: eh?
hotgeek: shit i meant it does work in safari not in firefox
nikos: Good morning everyone. Have a nice profitable weekend.
theman: is allready was
ww88: betfair not working? 1am uk time
ST: correct ww
jazzmonkey: still down, there are going to be some twitchy tennis traders
ST: site is back (8:23 CET) but very wobbly. 1,3 million euro traded on Fed-Murray an hour before matchstart.
Igby: anyone else still having some problems with BF? I am having some issues with matched bets beeing displayed
ST: Igby, I had some issues around 8:30 CET. Matched bets weren't being displayed when I was using Firefox, was fine with Explorer. No problems with the Aussie wallet though.
ruby: Betfair: "We are currently experiencing issues with our API service. This will affect customers using Mobile, Casino Download, and Live Video.  We apologise for any inconvenience caused and can assure our customers that this is being treated as the top priority and all available resources are working to restore service."
ruby: oops - all solved now apparently - under Forum - Service
DonS: 1415 CET sportsalive down?
DonS: never mind. up again
whocares: sbobet down for anyone 11am gmt
hotgeek: usually i use sbo128.com as i cannot access sbobet, however sbobet isworking for today and sbo128 isn't - so yes it is working at 1429 gmt
nikos: good morning everyone. Have a nice profitable weekend. No voids too.
vanman: Don`t you just love greek football  Smiley
nikos: I love that game. Maybe we should teach the Greek way all over.
Bastiano: titanbet down?
ruby: ran into an iceberg maybe?
vanman: The olympians won again then Bastiano.
Bastiano: Shocked
vanman: War of the titans Bastiano,you know greek mythology.
Bastiano: Ohw yes, Smiley I ve thaught you re asking something about Olimpija basketball, who lose this weekend
Bastiano: But yes i agree, olympians won Smiley
ww88: what is it with betfair recently? So much downtime
ruby: There was some scheduled downtime to install all sorts of exciting upgrades, which was completed on time about an hour ago. Mostly likely explanation is that new version has imploded as usual.
Bastiano: big move with sturm, i hope all is ok there
nikos: Good morning every1. Have a nice arbing weekend.
ww88: and you nikos. Anyone any idea which website keeps whistling at me. Its one of the asians and its bloody irritating
caligula: yeah me too - what's with the whistling
DonS: It is SBO. Found after searching for hours!
simo: any one having probs with sp
ww88: thanks don. You can turn off through your preferences
jazzmonkey: sassuolo 4 - 2 gallipoli, salernitana 1 - 3 triestina, grossetto 2 - 2 citadella
hotgeek: why did they put the whistle as the default - i think i would have been less irritated if it had been ole ole
caligula: cheers ww
ST: nice ramping, jazz Wink
Landprofits: oops, note to oneself, don't arb whilst tired. I've just backed Zadar (-7) and Hemofarm (+6.5), obviously thinking the wrong way round.
ww88: sbo working?
jazzmonkey: guess the money was wrong with the italian games ST, the 4-2 was just over 3s in sbo
natal: Pinnacle is down for me- anyone else?
ww88: no its fine nat
natal: OK thanks
theman: anyone sucking his own dick now because betfair is down? or only me?
simo: ever thought of becoming a porn star
hotgeek: youpornarb.com
protein: anyone watching Women cross country today in Olympics?
ST: what about it?
nikos: Good morning every1. Have a nice profitable weekend.
Jontheman: And the same to you.  You're full of weekend cheer these days Nikos  Smiley
ElectroArb: bet 24 was down at 14:30 'for scheduled maintainence'.  my arse!!
ST: wta final in bogota today. brings back memories ...
Jontheman: Not good ones  Angry
Jontheman: Rochus-Fish someone in Asia knows something?
nikos: Or maybe Expekt?
Jontheman: The line-lead appears to be coming from somewhere more unusual (for this sport) though?
nikos: Those Chinese bookmakers based in Costa Rica, don't offer this market. Who knows?Something underground maybe.
DonS: jon: maybe. I'm awaiting the line to move more. lets hope. closing my pos when profit=0.
Jontheman: I got some 4.75 on Rochus but I'm no tennis expert so that was closed a long time ago...
DonS: nice odds. got 4.55 and 4.2. 4.55 closed.
ST: Fish/Knowles retired from the doubles in Memphis last week so Fish could be injured
Jontheman: Cheers ST.  All my bets are match complete so all could be a waste of time...
ST: I need 2 sets to be completed
ST: according to matchstat, rochus has a lower back injury.  undecided
DonS: mine are match complete aswell :S last one got closed at 1.38
ST: Rochus retired in 3rd set
caligula: davydenko retired at end of first set today-fishy?
Jontheman: Rochus under instruction to retire if might lose?  WOuld explain heavy money for Rochus in a match complete book....
theman: where is Boyowen ????
paulmcfc: Anybody had any arbs on europa league before 1.30pm? Just finished work and I hope I havent missed any juicy ones!
nikos: All right Europa League.
Igby: Pinnacle down?
Bastiano: yes
ST: down for nearly 3 hrs now  Angry
DonS: does Bwin send withdrawals in weekends?
Igby: no answer from Pinn to e-mails either?
nikos: no
ST: no answer from pinny yet, but I only sent my email 20 mins ago
Igby: my e-mail bounced back, didn't get through to them
ST: From sbr's forum "02/26 09:15 AM PST, DON BEST CUSTOMERS  PINNACLE is having ISP issues. They are expected to be down for approximately the next 3 to 4 hours." so the lack of internet would explain why they're not replying to emails.
theman: ding
nikos: good morning everyone. Have a nice profitable weekend. Wink
hotgeek: any clues what is going on with apep - their odds just dropped considerably
Bastiano: Partybets verry slow here, is it only me?
jazzmonkey: have to put a thank you out to lebron this morning
Kr0m: This is my first shout! Cheesy
Bastiano: Partybets down? You have
Bastiano: anny mirror link for it?
DonS: does anyone know is Ram is injured?
Jontheman: A profitable weekend to all.  I've found my best mental bot of the year so have had a good weekend already  Smiley
nikos: I am not lucky with bots, well done Jon.
DonS: if you can tell your bot to take doxa@1.89, I would be happy Wink
ElectroArb: another good saturday Smiley
ElectroArb: absolute fortune on reading bristol city
nikos: Well done Pas Giannina.
Kr0m: why, nikos?
ElectroArb: pinnacle gave me a big scare by being very slow to settle a bet
nikos: Kr0m, Giannina is my hometown, there are many talks in the cafeterias.
Bastiano: Good morning Smiley, wish you many nice arbs!
Jenx: does anyone else think Chievo V Catania will end in a draw?
Fav: )
Jenx: 1-1 I could get good at this prediction thing
sonic: after the publicity of the last couple of days, i would expect a fair match. they are brave these italians!
ruby: Amusing penalty decision for the equalising goal - http://www.bettingpro.com/category/Video/Chievo-1-1-Catania-201003220043/
vanman: Another dodgy game by the looks of things Vicenza v Crotone,the draw is being backed on this one as well.
Fav: love italians ))))
jazzmonkey: not sure why anyone is surprised, this goes on every year
ElectroArb: 1.67 for the draw does seem a bit low
Whitney Houston: It is funny reading the betfair forum rampers....yeh my Italian cousin Luigi says it will def end 1-1
ElectroArb: 2.78 for the 1-1 :-o
Fav: lol managed to lay my trade on bf  0-1 score draw @1.5 haha
ElectroArb: i got draw 2.5 lay 2.1
Fav: got 2.6 lay all profit on draw at 1.67. equal pay at 1.5 )))
Whitney Houston: Anybody who bet on Lepchenko vs Sevastova in Unibet may want to check their account as they have settled it as a loss which it wasn't
playmonkey: Anyone having problems with arbsfinder?
Bastiano: Arbsfinder, maybe good for noobie to understand the crossmarket arbs. but they re slow, produce many wrong lines, dont find many arbs, only find soccer,....and somehow are similar to oddstorm. My oppinion they need to improve much or stay free forever.
playmonkey: Yup, well that's me... a noobie, trying to understand. Still can't get it to work so it's on with my big boys pants and TraderZone for me tomorrow...
nikos: Good morning boys and gals. Have a nice profitable weekend.
ElectroArb: another dodgy one?   Modena v Piacenza
Bastiano: and Triestina Padova, smells like a draw
ElectroArb: thanks nikos same to you
ElectroArb: Enter Message
Jontheman: does wozniacki have a history of retirements?  Need to know the best way to close a position.
jazzmonkey: she is ill - read the betfair forum
jazzmonkey: mix if on kiri first ball/first set but dont get in a position where you would be in trouble should woz retire
Jontheman: Cool.  Woz retire would be pretty good for me...
Fav: maybe wozi just has criticals day?^^
Fav: wozzi looks fine. if she lose first and not retire could be a flip flop
Jontheman: Great call, Fav.  I'd give up arbing and just trade tennis if I were you  Wink
Fav: thx,jonny  Wink
playmonkey: Prices are moving fast today...
vanman: As they always do.
ElectroArb: anyone having trouble with moneybookers today or is it just me?
ElectroArb: 4 deposits to bookies and casinos vanished into thin air
DonS: Haven't made any deposits today and I guess I will wait
DonS: keep us posted...
playmonkey: Anyone point me to a portal that shows Handicap 0:1 from all bookies?
DonS: Electroarb: couldn't resist trying it myself and got the same problem. Seems that the money is sent, but the MB plugin (or whatever it is) that sends the
DonS: ... notification to the specific site, is somehow not working.
ElectroArb: hopefully they will fix it quick and the money will arrive
ElectroArb: will be pain in the ass to manually chase it up
DonS: I don't think that it will correct itself, for the transactions that has already gone bad Sad
Jontheman: MB has been fine for me.
ElectroArb: quite a few people on another forum suffering the same
ElectroArb: phoned them - it was a technical issue resolved now
ElectroArb: merchants should manually credit your money today
ElectroArb: but DO keep tabs on this cash
DonS: I can confirm that it is working now.
Igby: Electro, how did the MB thing turn out for you? Money on the accounts yet?
ElectroArb: yes but i emailed them all with merchant ref from my mb account
ElectroArb: actually, sbo beat me to it and creditted anyway
Igby: pain in the ass these kind of things
simo: 12bet down  ?                              
simo: its ok opened with a mirror site
protein: Hi, Pinny down for anyone else besides me?
playmonkey: Pinny ok here, but don't know when you posted?
protein: Thanks, must be something with my connection/location since still down.
DonS: did bot just go crazy on betfair? "Gran Canaria 2014 v Panellinios"
Fav: nikos, any info agrotikos-Ilioupolis draw?
playmonkey: problem A1 volleyball U160.5 bwin won't take bet - ideas?
playmonkey: apart from 'don't use bwin'  Smiley
Bastiano: maybe line was overcrowded
playmonkey: lost on the volleyball - one-sided arbs aren't good.. Smiley
playmonkey: Happy Easter Arbing everyone...I'm off to play golf  Smiley
nikos: Happy Easter everyone.
Bastiano: Thanks, to you too nikos and all others of course
Whitney Houston: bah humbug
Kr0m: Happy Easter
Fav: happy easter
Kr0m: Ladbrokes down?
jazzmonkey: they went down about 3 years ago
DonS: Where can I bet live on white sox - cleveland (ongoing). Bwin just cancelled my bet.
DonS: A fast answer is much appreciated Wink
DonS: btw: betfair doesn't have enought volume, to cover my position
Jontheman: Matchbook?
Jontheman: I'm looking at a Betfair market at the moment.  It only has £500 matched but has £60k on one side and £32k on the other and is betting to a tight 100.4% at those levels.  Now that's a bit strange....
DonS: I don't think you were looking at the right game. €3579 matched right now. laid off some of it, but the match was going very much in my favor, so left the rest of the open.
DonS: aaah now I know jon. I was looking on handicap market. Sorry Wink
Jontheman: Sorry to be unclear.  The match I was talking about was different to DonS's match.  Just struck me as an unusual market - so much depth, so little turnover.
DonS: aaah sry about that Smiley
ElectroArb: anyone having mineybookers issues this morning?
simo: been on a couple of times and been fine
Fav: nice start of the day , Flipkens  Smiley
playmonkey: I've put an arb in the arb sharing if anyone is interested...
playmonkey: Arb has now gone - hope some of you made use of it...?
simo: sp down ?
DonS: wow what a nice move by the bulls. from around 1.8 to 1.5 i seconds Smiley
simo: awesome great middles as well
paulmcfc: I assume everyone is banking on arbor supreme on the national tommorrow?
DonS: anyone having moneybookers deposit problem? happened to me with penny
DonS: pinny even
ruby: thanks for pointing that out paulmcfc, I notice it's drifting a bit what colour is it?
ruby: am on anyway at 27.0
Jontheman: my wife using her "advanced" selection of picking a nice name got the winner of the national and followed it with the winner of the next race.  Both paid over 15/1 at the Tote.  Bollocks to arbing - I'm just going to send her out to buy lottery tickets.
Jontheman: Still worth some of these, though...   Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley
Jontheman: [correction] actually both over 14/1, not quite 15.
nikos: Let's go Greece.
DonS: RB down?
theman: boom cha ka la
LostInBKK: Please send me all non limiting bookies Wink
theman: betfair ???
nikos: What does it mean BKK?
theman: Kebab Karate Brigade ?
ruby: Burger King kitchen?
Igby: "Bangkok"
LostInBKK: Correct Bangkok
Kr0m: 11:30 UKT+1 Is there anyone else that can not login into Globet?
simo: have globet become honest ? undecided
ST: anyone on the azarenka match? I'm not, but interesting stuff. Went from 1.07 to 1.6 prematch.
nikos: Globet?Definately nope.
sonic: I got stung... should have known better Sad
tribet3: Not on that match ST you are slipping Wink
jazzmonkey: unlucky tribet - how much did you lose on the game?
tribet3: Nothing,won a lot though friends in high places Wink
jazzmonkey: suuuuuure you have Grin
jazzmonkey: not sure that your best mate being a window cleaner really counts
theman: hard words
ST: when you fill in the sportsbook complain at sbr and hit submit, do you usually get some sort of confirmation? I've hit submit, but nothing really happens so I'm not sure if my complaint have been sent.
ST: *complaint form
tribet3: It will have been sent ST
tribet3: Only a part time window cleaner Jazz the rest of the time he works for the WTA tour,as tennis is your sport I can get you tickets for any tournament you fancy just give me a shout
ST: thx for the reply, they will think I'm an idiot now for sending it 3-4 times
tribet3: NP another of my made up friends works for SBR if you need it sorting urgently
theman: tribet3 you are the old Tribet ?
tribet3: Yes how's it going theman?
DonS: ST: As far as I remember, their site says that you should call them, if you don't get a respons within 24h. I think you should wait a couple of days, and then email them if you don't get a respons.
jazzmonkey: good comeback tribet
jazzmonkey: we can do an exchange for afl/nrl/union tickets when you are here in oz  Smiley Smiley
theman: fine , fine , but you promise me 1.000.000 euro , where is the money ???
nikos: Good morning everyone. I hope the volcano fogue will not stop football too.
Jontheman: check out the tipping thread for some volcano related bets!!
Igby: betcris down?
hotgeek: anyone know where i can get in play odds for ofi v crete?
playmonkey: what happened to the Seppi/Martin match at the ATP?  Martin is now playing Kukushkin and Bwin have cancelled my bet... Huh Huh Huh
ST: Seppi got his flight cancelled (3 times), so he couldn't make it. Someone should have told him there are other options.
tribet3: Millionaire Italian tennis players do not do driving to places ST.
Jontheman: maybe he didn't want to put the mileage on the Lambo.
playmonkey: bets were voided so no harm done.. Sad I suppose they called it 'intererupted play'
tribet3: the man,I wired you the 1.000.000 euro,you not get it yet?
theman: tribet , my bank close my account because is was on minus , please send it again , i just deposit in my account 1 euro , now is open and waiting your money
theman: how are you ? fine ?
nikos: Happy weekend arbing to everyone!
tribet3: Excellent thanks theman.
DonS: I have a local football game, from one of the lower league in my country starting in 45 min. Is it somehow possible to go out and beat the bookie on livebets??? the match is not on TV. The bookie may have a feed, but how know what the delay is on that...
Bastiano: Bookies have their scouts and reporters on the match, they operate via mobile phone and some other equipement. There are companies that offer scouting and reporting from live matches to bookies. You can try to go on a stadion with an palm computer and connect throught mobile operator and see how BF or other bookies will react and how fast they react.
DonS: Just came home from the game. The stadion is very small, so I can sit on bench with my laptop. Got a bet on at the first goal, but it was voided, because they have a "danger period", where all bets are voided if a goal are scored. There was no video live feed on site. I talked to the information tower, and they said that they phone in goals to reuters, maybe they send them on to bookies.
N_O_Y_B: as bastiano said, asians have scouts there. in my country usually some random (often chinese) guy with a phone, so even if the stadium is small he might be difficult to spot.
nikos: Not to mention the real time TV that some bookmakers have.
DonS: hmm I don't really believe that asians bookies have scouts at a danish 1st division game, with crowd at max 50. I checked for cameras. There was only a kid with a video cam. He said it was for his own blog...
Jontheman: Following the Livorno-Catania Draw odds is making me feel seasick  Shocked
vanman: with the amount of money on the draw i can`t believe the price isn`t around the 1.50 mark.
Bastiano: @DonS Most of matches are covered by scouts, they dont use video cameras. They just are in telephone contact with company or bookie. 1 scout at the stadium is enought to report, and all bookies get the infromations. The scouts are traind to be fast, they get some extra money + free tickets, mostlly they re students or young ppl. But it is possible that some matches arent covered.
DonS: I guess they're not easy to spot then...
N_O_Y_B: i've been to several youth games of a club in my home-town with a crowd of maybe 25 and a training pitch without any stands. there was definitely a guy there. also, scores in such games are not covered anywhere, def no camera feed, not on livescore-sites, not on reuters, nowhere, except in-play with the asians.
N_O_Y_B: it's a big mystery which idiot would like to bet on mediocre 17 year olds playing soccer on the other side of the world, but that's a different question
ST: addicts will bet on anything. there was an article about scouts being at Swedish Superettan (2nd divison) matches and the newspaper made it sound like it was some sort of scam, the Swedish football federation was apparently worried about it according to this article.
ST: speaking of scams, I wonder if you could pay off a scout to give bookies wrong (or delayed) information and get away with it. not that I'd recommend it.
Jontheman: Why not go and chat to him NOYB?  Might be interesting.  Wonder how much they have to pay them - you wouldn't think running in-play on these sorts of games would have enough volume to be profitable...
ST: The scout that was interviewed in that swedish article reportedly got 100 euro per match.
Bastiano: For as far as i know, the pay in West Europe is 50€ + traffic costs + ticket, in East Europe 30€ + ...... maybe even less depand of a region. Scouts are using mobile phone with somekind of application developed for live stat sending.
DonS: maybe get a job as a scout and then take advantage Tongue anyone have an idea where to apply for such job?
Jontheman: Well assuming you're running a 1.95-1.95 book you'd need 2000 euro per side just to pay the scout which seems a lot on the very lowest matches with 3 men and a dog watching.  Makes me think they're running a greater profit margin by freerolling people by holding their bets pending for longer than necessary and accepting only if goals are scored against the punter.....
nowhere: St, better read this first before suggesting of paying off a scout, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/7561589.stm
johnsmith: thats some nasty shit  lol, side note , i understood the scout costs were shared among books
Bastiano: Pinn down?
vanman: Pinny fine here  15.15 UK time
nikos: Happy 1st May arbing.
ST: so I have a bit of a luxury problem. I've been offered a 10 day trip with pretty much everything paid for to South Africa during the World Cup. This is of course great, but I can't help thinking about the loss of income whis would mean, since WC is a big event for arbers. But if I do say yes, it will at least mean less competition for you during those 10 days Smiley
vanman: What`s there to think about ST.......get your case packed.
vanman: Just think of it this way,you haven`t got to pay for the trip,so you are in effect not losing any money with the loss of arbing....the one balances out the other and you have a great trip.
jazzmonkey: who cares about arbing, you only live once.
nikos: Get the trip ST.
ST: thanks for your comments and advice. i'm heavily leaning towards yes, I need to give an answer tomorrow. vanman, the one doesn't exactly balance out the other financially, However, going to the World Cup has always been a dream of mine and if I want to do it in the forseeable future, it will mean a loss of income as I plan on continuing arbing, so I might as well do it now when I've been offered the trip for free.
vanman: If you don`t go ST....can i go in your place?
ST: I'm going.
ruby: Good decision ST - nobody ever died wishing they'd spent more time in front of a computer screen - or however the quote goes
nikos: Well done ST. Have a nice time there.
caligula: I'm going to SA too- for the whole month. No-brainer. But I'm still hoping to get a bit of arbing done whilst out there.
Jenx: Take the trip, tie up your money on longer term arbs before you go, watch the footy and forget about arbing for a while
Bastiano: pinny down?
vanman: Pinny fine here 18.21 UK time
ST: it was down for a while. back now.
tribet3: Vote Conservative tomorrow or we will end up like the Greeks but with flushing toilets.
Whitney Houston: I'd rather disembowel myself with a spoon.
tribet3: Strange comment never mind try and see sense and get rid of the gay Scotchlander,vote Tory.
paulmcfc: I'm with you on that tribet
Bastiano: sbo down (slow)?
playmonkey: Bwin is now in Hungarian... (ok if you are Hungarian I suppose)
jazzmonkey: if anyone is unlimited at extrabet let me know - have a couple of good arbs
Whitney Houston: Tri you homophobic bigot....who let you back in here? Was it Sue?
tribet3: You need a dictionary it seems.
Whitney Houston: For which bit? The homophobe or the bigot?
playmonkey: My stakes have been reset to the max...£000.00  Interwetten sucks!
hotgeek: where is the 'good luck' message from Nikos?
nikos: I was out this morning. Have a nice arbing weekend!!!
M.O: looks like udine-bari draw odds destined for collapse
vanman: What makes you think that M.O lol
playmonkey: Stakes increased...Interwetten Redemption....
DonS: udinese - bari, back at 2.54 Tongue
M.O: very interesting market though
Jontheman: Wow, my head is spinning after that - fantastic stuff.  Time for 15 mins break before attacking the 4pm kickoffs!!
Bastiano: Asians have won money again on Inter.
tribet3: Grand day
vanman: Azarenka retires at 0-3 in first set  Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Jenx: Oh yes you beauty  Smiley
jazzmonkey: just the singular grand tribet? must have missed one or two things  Wink
playmonkey: Andreev retires end of second set  cry cry cry Oh no you b*st*ard. Always check bookie rules.
ST: You were very unlucky there (I think, it must have been somewhat serious if he quit when he was a set ahead), but don't mix rules unless you know what you're doing. Knowing bookies rules is a must if you are going to arb/mix rules on tennis.
billythedog: Hi ( salut) theman !
theman: sal
theman: ce mai zici omule?
billythedog: greu observi dude Smiley, merge unsa treaba luna asta, tu cum stai man ?
theman: mai slab ca am avut niste probleme
nikos: An e-mail from ''Bet24'' might came to you, offering 50 euros. Be carefull. Probably spammers from Nigeria.
Bastiano: thanks for info nikos
jazzmonkey: ww seems to be around - welcome back!
sinkhole: anyone won on moneybookers promo?
hotgeek: They have also been sending out emails from "BP" offering you discounted oil, but aparently its just pirates from Somalia. Ripping off the Chinese and the Russians in one go...
DonS: sinkhole. yep won tier 1 Sad
nikos: Happy arbing weekend everyone.
LostInBKK: I have now ended my arbing on paper and have deposited money in MoneyBookers Smiley Smiley Smiley
Jenx: I got 1 tier at mbkers too
sinkhole: got tier 4
LostInBKK: Is there a limit to the first amount of money you can send to MoneyBookers from your bank account. I have had a good look around the site but I cant see a limit mentioned anywhere.
theman: yes
theman: i upload 17k first time and i wait 4 weeks to got verified
theman: mybe because of my location
LostInBKK: 4 weeks Sad I was hoping to use the money for arbing on the World Cup
hotgeek: it won't take four weeks if you are snappy send them the docs
LostInBKK: Ah OK Smiley I have asked them to verify my bank account and address.
theman: better to ask directly first time
LostInBKK: What do you mean ask them directly first time?
hotgeek: you can ring them - they are quicker over the phone - are you actually in Bkk atm?
theman: correct hotgeek
LostInBKK: Good Idea let me give them a call now.
LostInBKK: Thanks hotgeek Smiley
LostInBKK: Just called them and there is no limit to the amount you transfer from a Bank account. Smiley
ElectroArb: norway cup Smiley
playmonkey: toulon tournament  undecided
tribet3: Fair play Jazz I didn't quite make 2 grand that day well done if yopu did Wink
billythedog: sportsalive down?
jazzmonkey: it was a good day all in all tribet - I was only teasing as am sure you know
simo: Enter Message
simo: alive still down?
nikos: Happy arbing weekend everyone.
Gollum: Fuck arbing, suns out. Beer garden ASAP
vanman: Nice to see you again Gollum,got to agree beer garden asap.
Jontheman: Welcome back Gollum.  I look forward to more bouts of newb abuse  Wink
Gollum: Due to the Wozniacki retirement I have been down Asda and grabbed a
Gollum: 20 pack of Bud 440ml for a tenner (best deal ive seen on booze for a while), stuck a chair in the garden, therefore creating a Beer Garden
Gollum: Now im just counting down to the match, my head says Cardiff should be too strong but I would fuckin love it if Blackpool could do the fuckers, I hope we charged the sheepshaggin lot to get
Gollum: over that fuckin bridge
Gollum: Why are they even allowed in our League, they should be in the Welsh Premier with the likes of Icwmupalamb Valley
Gollum: SURELY THEY CANT HOLD ON, COME ON MY SON, PLEASE SEND THEM FUCKERS BACK OVER THE BORDER
Gollum: They pulled it off, well done Blackpool. I thought they looked good against Forest
DonS: with depositing at 188bet I get: "Content was blocked because it was not signed by a valid security certificate.". just ignore?
theman: yep
ST: betfair outage tomorrow for international customers between 9.00 and 11.00 CET
N_O_Y_B: thanks st. nice timing of them.
ST: yeah, exactly. not like there's a major tennis tourney going on or anything.
DonS: Anyone having problem with 188bet. A lot of markeds say "match was closed", when I click the odds.
DonS: Never mind. Was a local cache problem.
DonS: does sbo and canbet get the odds from the same source? they are both showing the same palp...
vanman: Canbet tend to copy prices from SBO
DonS: oh ok. wrong price to copy Smiley
simo: any one having problems getting sbo site
vanman: yes
billythedog: sbo still down?
hotgeek: up now
hotgeek: down again
vanman: sbo are undergoing maintainence
protein: anyone has problems logging in to Unibet?
billythedog: up now
DonS: anyone having problems with BF? I keep on getting a popup with tech. difficulties
simo: seems ok here
ST: DonS, which browser? I got the same error message when using Google Chrome. Works fine with Firefox.
DonS: ST yeah it is chrome. Tried with IE and worked fine Sad
simo: anyone had any bets void for the japan v ivory coast friendly they are playing 3x45 mins
DonS: reached tier 3 in the VIP MB promotion.. Really boring prizes Sad Sony mp3, beauty box :-S, football shirt voucher, alarm clock radio, WC trophy replica... hmm what to get?
Landprofits: I think you can actually switch to 1% cashback, with a possible option to negotiate with your account manager for a bit more as they are in competition with neteller
DonS: Yes but don't I have to upload additional funds to my MB account?
Landprofits: according to this, yes; http://www.moneybookers.com/ads/world-cup/faq/
Landprofits: but, on a positive note.....uploads to betfair count
DonS: Sad yeah have no additional funds to upload Sad
Landprofits: tbh I don't bother with these promotions. faffing around with cashflow in order to earn 1% on uploads must detract from arbing IMO. I just haven't got the time.
vanman: Take whatever MB are offering,my son now has an official world cup mascot and replica football and me and my mrs have a sony walkman4gb to down load music onto in an attempt to look cool when we go on holiday. Grin
vanman: Or failing that just sell it all on ebay.
Landprofits: aye, but I I don't make a special effort to move funds around, I just register for the offers and if I get somehting out of it then so much the better
vanman: Same here,i only put money in a book when i run out there.
ST: just won a tier 3 price. think I'll take the walkman. obviously it's nice to get free stuff, but I am slightly annoyed that I haven't made an effort to reach a higher tier. at the same time, I've been very busy arbing.
jazzmonkey: still plenty of time to go - the higher tiers are reachable if you put the effort in on quieter days
LostInBKK: Dam I have a bad Hang Over Sad
DonS: I went for a football shirt for my friend... The trophy would have been nice though Smiley
Jenx: I got a keyring... ho hum
LostInBKK: My money is still stuck in Moneybookers Sad Hope to get my first real arbs starting Monday.
LostInBKK: Going to take it slow and easy only Football(Soccer) and Tennis at the start while I learn the ropes
Jontheman: well you missed the tennis and the football doesn't start for another week, so slow might be the correct word for Monday...
LostInBKK: As long as I am finally able to get access to my money in MoneyBookers I will be happy.
LostInBKK: slowly slowly catchy monkey
DonS: Where can I lay off last goalscorer during the WC? Betfair isn't offering this yet.... Called them, but the CS guy didn't know..
jazzmonkey: probably nowhere - how much do you have on?
DonS: jazz: nothing yet. just researching markets up to WC
Gollum: What a fuckin week next week aye, World Cup, Royal Ascot and the US Open
Gollum: And then the following week will settle back down with a few more World Cup matches and that silly little tournament called Wimbledon
Gollum: I wonder how much beer Ill drink over the next fortnight
ruby: perhaps this lady can help: http://partyfail.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/funny_1188-old-drunk-lady-fail.jpg
caligula: nadal v istomin  Cheesy if it goes at least one set. fingers crossed
ElectroArb: woo-hoo, its started!
Igby: Don't you guys love the world cup song?
Igby: Bet24 down for anyone else?
vanman: down here as well
DonS: LoL nice timing my bet24
DonS: Have a nice WC everyone. I hope that you have already found some goodies Wink
tribet3: You too fucking good start with the Slovenia game anyway Wink
DonS: couldn't resist to put €16 on zero corners i the next game, at odds 1000 Smiley Fingers crossed, I need it Wink
Jontheman: Good luck, Don, seen it happen...  BF liquidity is shite on most other sports tonight.  Down with the World Cup!!  Wink
DonS: 4 corners.. but if it was to happen, when this was the match!
jazzmonkey: tribet - that slovenia game was huge - i guess it has been you fighting against me to lay off at decent odds?
N_O_Y_B: damn, i'm good (or lucky). 8/8 in the unibet quiz.
Jontheman: Well I'm sorry for the forum Greeks that your team looked just so shite, but it's certainly made for some nice arbs so hopefully that's cheered you up  Smiley.
tribet3: USA USA let's hope the fat English lose
Jontheman: I'll take Greece's keeper over England's any day...
tribet3: Bit "unfortunate for the lad" as they say that still same old shite every 4 years from England if they weren't so fat and unfit it would help for starters
Kr0m: I am sorry about first Greece match, Nikos
Jontheman: Was it rash to dump most of my bankroll on the Germany/Aus shift?  Nah, Gollum's "beer garden" strategy awaits!
nikos: Kr0m, not a big surprise for me. I expect many goals against Greece in the next 2 games.
DonS: Trading a handball match right now. Clearly I have about 4-5 sec better video feed... Just not enough money in the market Sad
sinkhole: betfair down?
Ephemere: down for me, along with a couple more
paulmcfc: Tribet - Where are you from?
vanman: pinny down,no problem with betfair tho
Ephemere: everything fine now
LostInBKK: Are there unlimited withdrawals from Pinnacle to Moneybookers?
simo: yes but only the first one per month is free
LostInBKK: Since most people use Pinnacle as a base book does that mean they just leave the money in there and only withdraw once a month?
jazzmonkey: cant remember the last time i withdrew from pinnacle
playmonkey: Did anyone have the 8-1 Paddy Power bet that the ITV coverage would interrupted?
Igby: Pinny problems, anyone else?
vanman: Plenty earlier,but seem to be ok now.
Jontheman: Well done Kirilenko  Smiley
hotgeek: i am having problems with them in Safari. They seem to have a page on top of a page - if you know what I mean. Works okay in safari though
hotgeek: Sorry i meant problems in firefox - works in safari - am tired x
playmonkey: Made my first World Cup arb... are they moving fast or am I just slow... Roll Eyes
vanman: probably a bit slow
playmonkey: awe...thanks
tribet3: Just take any unders playmonkey and wait a bit
vanman: Can`t believe i`ve actually run out of money.
jazzmonkey: perfect storm
nikos: errr...Greece.
DonS: whats the problem?, they won
DonS: What will the Portugal - North korea 1H 1-0 odds settle at? anyone?
Jontheman: Greek trader having seizure?
Igby: Was just going to ask the same, Jon
Igby: Did you place any of those bets?
Jontheman: I've emptied my account on them but won't be laying off until 1 minute before kick-off.  We'll see what they let run.
Gollum: Hes balancing his books, they left that Japan +1 2.23 up for ages as if the trader had fell asleep. None of the bets will be void, either way. They didnt void that 2.16 on Germany in the week either, THEY KNEW, lol
Gollum: EUROSPORTBET.CUNTS , Ive had reports these guys are a bunch of wankers that just like to take deposits, but dont have a withdrawal option, IE SCAM, can anyone confirm otherwise
Igby: I found this Gollum : http://www.thedailypunt.com/forum/general-betting-talk/125365-eurosportbet-thieves-never-use-them-again-if-you-you-have-sense.html
Igby: and this: http://www.bookmakersreview.com/Ratings_History/EuroSportBets_future_in_doubt/10509/
Gollum: yeah total scam then, really surprised, they are even advertised on Eurosport
Jontheman: Knoew about the 2.23, Gollum.  Just thought they might void both.
tribet3: Why would they void and "there are no problems with" Eurosportbet
Jontheman: They didn't and I laid it all before KO.  Yes, it was unlikely, but nothing lost by being cautious  Tongue Smiley
Gollum: Turns out they did void both, lol
Gollum: "there are no problems with" Eurosportbet, lol, ok God, fuckin bulb.
tribet3: Lost your sense of humour Mr.Dudley? Grin
Gollum: Im English, my sense of humour was lost about 9.30pm Friday night FOREVER
Gollum: but I still dont get the Mr Dudley part, must be the kind of joke sausage munchers share
tribet3: Sausage muncher?That joke was a bit too smart for you  Wink
DonS: wow got odds 15 on >2,5 goals in 2H of brazil - ivory... really thought if would be voided, but I guess not Tongue
LostInBKK: anyone know a good bookie for F1
LostInBKK: Not bet and win
LostInBKK: Great game this FRA v RSA
vanman: COME ON ENGLAND!!!!!!!!!!
Bastiano: A draw or a draw in Algeria vs USA would satisfie me Smiley
Bastiano: fucking shit
paulmcfc: Unlucky Bastiano. I thought you deserved to go through. Looks like a meeting with the Germans for us
Jontheman: Mahut Isner   Shocked
Jontheman: BF must be happy though.  £10 million matched on a first round match and counting!
vanman: Just read about Isner match....amazing!!!!
vanman: Bad luck Bastiano.
Bastiano: Yes bad luck, i hope at least next time ppl wont exchange us with Slovakia.
LostInBKK: I thought England played OK still Rooney is WAY off form and now seems to be lacking confidence. Milner played very well and put in a killer ball for Defo to nock in. Barry and Upson were very poor.
LostInBKK: Playing Germany is always very interesting but the truth be told both teams are very poor and stand no chance of winning the World Cup. So I am looking forward to a great game and please no penalties. Good Luck to both people.
vanman: Rooney has been carrying a knee injury from about the last month of Premier League season.
playmonkey: Isner match finished....Lucky it was on B365 live streaming...
hotgeek: Anyone else having problems with the arbforum personal messages - it keeps saying an error has occured everytime I tried to send one!!
DonS: aggressive promo from gamebookers/partybet 100% up to €250
nikos: where is this?
nikos: ok...mse...but no mail for me.
N_O_Y_B: last time i pm-ed i also got an error every time i tried. this was a while back though.
DonS: nikos: got email to three of my accounts, plus I'm able to open one other. have to clear it with small negative %
jazzmonkey: i have had the error too - will speak to boyowen about it when i have the chance
jazzmonkey: otherwise try new browser or dont reply to a message, rather send it fresh
jazzmonkey: might or might not work
LostInBKK: Only happens if you have new messages from the same person.
hotgeek: Why are England favourites to win today? There must be millions of people betting all over the world. They can surely see that Germany are the better team. I don't get it.
ST: it's called patriotic betting. I took Germany early at 2.06 pk, thinking it was a great price. Then I realized the market always loves England and got out for a small loss at England 1.93. I'm glad I didn't wait, since they've shortened since.
paulmcfc: Hot Geek - If Germany are the better team then tell me which German players would get into the England team?
paulmcfc: I know individual great players don't make a great team but what do you base your assumption on?
ST: it's not that they have indivually better players, but the Germans traditionally find a way to win. In the past 20 years Germany has 1 WC gold, 1 WC silver and 1 WC bronze, 1 Euro Gold and 2 Euro silvers, whereas England has 1 WC semi and 1 Euro semi in the same timespan. This isn't a coincidence. And in most cases, England and Germany have been fairly equal in terms of individual quality.
vanman: COME ON ENGLAND!!!!!!
paulmcfc: I know that the Germans are more successful than England. No doubts about that. I just don't understand how anyone can say Germany are a obviously the better team.
paulmcfc: Expect me to not te
paulmcfc: Expect me not to return to the forum for a few days when we have lost
nikos: Those refs...
paulmcfc: I'll get my coat..
hotgeek: So anyway - how come England were favourites?
tribet3: I did say they wre shat and fat.
vanman: You forgot overpaid wankers as well.
paulmcfc: Guaranteed we will win Euro 2010... Gets coat and leaves..
Jenx: Rule number 47 of sportsbetting (not arbitrage) always lay England. Its only football. cry
M.O: COME ON SLOVAKIA ONE TIME!!!
paulmcfc: I put a £100 compensation bet on Germany at HT so it slightly softened the blow
Jontheman: Watching the match in Poland every pole was cheering England and several came up to us to wish us well and say nice things about the uk
Jontheman: ...although it's not hard to be more popular than a country that for 200 years just saw Poland as somewhere to invade on the way to Russia...
nikos: if it wasn't the WC, i would say that Jpn-Par was fixed for 0-0.
Jontheman: I would be able to express an opinion but I genuinely did fall asleep in front of that match, so I can't.
vanman: Didn`t get in from work until extra time was about to start.....thank god for that.
Bastiano: A nice Jun action today Smiley
ruby: So it would seem that England is a better team than Argentina, only losing 4-2 to the Germans instead of 4-0
ST: but not as good as Finland, who got two draws against Germany in the qualification, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_%E2%80%93_UEFA_Group_4
ruby: Yes but that's wikipedia, which I believe lets you put in the results that you want
ST: ah true, didn't think of that
sinkhole: does sbobet work?
whocares: not for me on two computers
playmonkey: sbobet is taking time to load at the moment - thought it was just my browsers
simo: anybody else have 25$ limits on 12bet.
simo: limits back to normal apparantly the had a bug in their system
ruby: ha, I noticed my limits were down, thought they were punishing me and took all my money out
ruby: now they'll probably limit me for taking all my money out..
playmonkey: anyone want to buy shares in a psychic octopus?
Kr0m: lol
Jontheman: Hills must be desparate for money on Spain  Smiley
Jontheman: They took more than 50p off me....
Kr0m: 50p = 50.000€?
Kr0m: They had Spain @ 2.20 which would have been a profitable trade laying it at Betfair's lay current odd (2.12)
Kr0m: Oh, I see you were being inronic... 50 pence is your normal limit there... lol
nikos: Well done Spain.
Kr0m: Thank you, Nikos! I am still diggesting it. I can't believe it! Smiley
Jontheman: So much for the "beautiful" dutch game.  England may be shit but Holland were just dirty.
Kr0m: I think it was the best they could do to improve their chance of winning a clearly superior team
Kr0m: If I were their trainer I would have told them to do exactly the same: Hit them hard. It's a pitty that best strategy to win was against the show and the true football fair play.
Kr0m: But justice prevails as good football has won Smiley
N_O_Y_B: not taking anything away from anybody, but next wc-final a decent ref would be nice.
paulmcfc: I don't recall any big decisions he got wrong? If he was being really fair Holland should have been down to 9 at HT. As much as I love de Jong as a player that tackle was crazy
simo: i agree he stamped his authority on the game and was almost consistent all game should have booked a couple more spain players
N_O_Y_B: as you say, he missed two reds. first half. if heitinga did deserve a 2nd yellow (and he did), why didn't puyol get one? whether or not a player dives when touched shouldn't matter, both were fouled similarly on their way to goal. those are all some pretty big decisions imo.
Jontheman: There's a lot of pressure not to ruin the world's biggest game.  Holland down to 9 by HT would have done that.  Webb caught between a rock and a hard place, really.
simo: we have seen a lot worse refs this world cup
N_O_Y_B: sure, but def also a number of better ones, including one or two from 3rd world countries that turned out pretty decent
paulmcfc: The way I saw it he was more lenient to Holland, if anything. I was gutted as well though as I had a pre tournament wager on the Dutch to win it
ST: Anyone having problems with Pinny? When I log in all markets disappear. I've tried different browsers and different computers.
ST: nevermind, seems ok again now
Bastiano: Oprandi? what has happened (1 set uncompleted) anyone knows?
ST: not sure when this was posted, so you might already know, but opponent retired at 1-5 in the 1st set
Bastiano: but the reason? maybe injury
Bastiano: fucking taken a palp with pinn, too fast to think, lol
hotgeek: they void pretty quick
billythedog: Hi theman!!! Ce mai faci? type Smiley
whocares: 12bet problems anyone?
simo: ok here
theman: sal , scuze de delay , bine da tu ?
billythedog: ma chinui man sa fac  10% din banca, naspa de tot luna asta...tu cum stai?
theman: la fel ca si tine
playmonkey: I love Pinny. Transferred money in 30 mins - great for the cashflow Smiley
DonS: €12 pr. transfer >1, so I guess it is somewhat pricy
playmonkey: Yup, but my FREE one for this month... Wink
Igby: Pinny back up for someone?
simo: no
DonS: no alt. url?
simo: i tried earlier but none of them worked
billythedog: limited to 25€ at 12bet..f*****g bastards X(
Landprofits: anybody know if bluesq have the grand prix market up on the day of qualifying?
Jontheman: llodra drift?
Jontheman: llodra has an "interesting" record - not sure whether to even bother laying off my last few bets on sweeting.
tribet3: drift more of an avalanche
Bastiano: I feel georgeus now Smiley)
Jontheman: A profitable weekend to all.  Nice to have some leagues starting up again  Smiley
ST: competitor died at the sauna world championships, http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/world/189993/sauna-contest-in-finland-cut-short-as-russian-dies
Jontheman: Hope you didn't mix rules on that one ST.
aldo: when you log in and don't recognise the existing logged in 9 members it makes you wonder what you're doing here
nikos: It makes you believe that you are allready a veteran aldo.
tribet3: Got to love the dog eaters
Bastiano: yep, big moves
nikos: A betfair fiasco. I hope you weren't exposed those minutes.
ST: We're second class citizens unfortunately. Didn't hurt me financially this time.
caligula: what happened?
ST: betfair was down for international customers for a half hour or so on saturday night.
caligula: ah ok
playmonkey: Guibis 1st Set, Murray 2nd Set - you beauty... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
playmonkey: What happened in the Federer v Kohlschreiber match?
Kr0m: Barcelona - Sevilla  Barcelona 1.33 Lay Barcelona 1.28
Kr0m: Back Barcelona in Eurobet/Coral
Kr0m: lay it at Betfair
DonS: pinny down?
Landprofits: Pinnys seems to be OK here - this is a good site to check: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
DonS: cool thx. Smiley btw up for me again!
jazzmonkey: placed bets on a new sport today: "pesapallo"
ruby: sounds like another of those Nordic sports involving ice or snow, bits of wood and vodka
N_O_Y_B: it's like baseball with weird rules. it can be a bit of a minefield with regards to rules as these guys draw in regular time quite often, so there are some OT-pitfalls
playmonkey: sbo down?
playmonkey: downforeveryoneorjustme.com says 'yes' but computer says 'no'
Landprofits: i'm sure they have a mirror site, worth going on live chat when it's back up for you and asking for the addy
Landprofits: i can't remember it i'm afraid but they did give it to me once when I was unable to login to the main site
playmonkey: Good advice, will give them a bell, cheers  Wink
Kr0m: Sports Arbitrage Guide is down, aegist
tribet3: Oh no come on aegist hurry up how can I reach my 2k target this weekend without SAG
Kr0m: I just wanted SAG online so that a totally newbie friend could take a general idea of what arbing is...
Kr0m: ...instead of having to explain everything myself. He has to do his homework, as all of we have already done Cheesy
Kr0m: all of us, sorry, hehe
billythedog: Dolgopolov drift ?
mewmew: Awesome Johnstones Paint Trophy arbs! Smiley
nikos: After a great Friday, have a super arbing Weekend, extended till Monday night.
Jontheman: Yeah.  Quite happy I have Monday off this week  Smiley
tribet3: Grand day already Smiley
jazzmonkey: doesnt really add up does it tribet?
tribet3: NRL Wink Smiley
jazzmonkey: cowboys side/middle - you were up nice and early for ir
jazzmonkey: it
tribet3: Aye early bird catches the worm.
N_O_Y_B: late birds catch a few every now and then as well. i've not seen a whole lot of matches a blatantly fixed as tonight's guatemala-game.
nikos: What a day!!!
tribet3: Not a grand day though,least not for me
Gollum: it is for me, lol, get the feck in you swedish mother fuckers, last kick off the game, I IS ARB
Gollum: GTFI GTFI LA LA LA, LA LA LA
tribet3: Wd Mr Dudley you can buy your council house now
Jontheman: Shame the Lith/Chi match didn't hit any of the right numbers (was looking good well into 4th quarter)- if it had I guess most of arbforum would be cracking open the champagne now, not just Gollum.  Still, pretty good all in all..
Jontheman: BTW re NOYB - interesting how few bookies are carrying the guatemala game today  lips sealed
N_O_Y_B: wtf. when i woke up this morning they were playing japan away. now about 14 hours later they're playing el salvador away.. impressive schedule these guys have.
Gollum: the best about it was I was waiting to back ov 6.5 as soon as they hit 6 goals obviously hoping it would be as late as possible, lol, didnt expect it to come on the last touch of the game
Gollum: If theres one thing ive noticed with this gambling malarky, no matter how good you are (and I am fuckin good) if somethings gonna happen for ya it will, if something is gonna shaft ya it will, you only have so much control
WU_TANG: Put on an arb between a Bookie and Betfair but have now found out the Bookie will void in the case of a dead heat whereas Betfair has a dead heat rule, so am open to a loss if it is a tie...
WU_TANG: Betfair is a gold mine and a death trap at the same time and excuse my language but I hate the sad cunts who try to con you by laying stupid odds like 0.01 when it should be 0.01 to back the team. It's all over the site, Betfair probably don't care less as they make a percentage of anything matched.
Bastiano: BF is and exchange, ppl are free to offer and accept odds. Of course you need to be careful, some odds are wrong with purpouse. BF will just take the commision.
DonS: how aggro is BAH in relation to voiding palps?


     
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